Remembering Kusu Island

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Janet Chang asked 3 interesting questions:

In your blog, you mentioned that

 

          Telah: closed, completed already

          Sudah: finished, but still ongoing, will happen again, may still be doing so, or may do it again.

 

However, I do not really understand what you mean by ‘ongoing/may still be doing so/may do it again’.

 

Answer:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Saya sudah makan {I have eaten (will eat again next meal time)}

 

Saya telah makan  {I had eaten (hence no to your offer)}

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Referring to your lecture notes:

 

Mereka telah berenang ke Pulau Kusu. (lecture 4) à why is this ‘telah’ and not ‘sudah’? they may swim to Kusu Island again right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mereka telah berenang ke Pulau Kusu

[is a one-off thing [hence telah is used] as the context is from the first make-up tutorial story telling where some nus students swam to Kusu from Sentosa due to a typhoon]

{It was supposed to be a MediaCorp Blockbuster}

 

 How do you know when something is open-ended or closed? Is it defined by the writer?

 

 

 

 

 

It is defined by the context:

I remember that the context provided was when someone offer you food at a long house:

 

You may refuse politely: Saya sudah makan {I have tasted and will try afterwards}

You may reject:  Saya telah makan {I had tasted hence no to the offer}

 

Since it is defined by the context it is identifiable given the similar contextual pattern:

 

Saya sudah bangun {I have waken up}

Saya telah bangun {I had waken up}

 

*Saya sudah bangun kerana bunyi kuat {*I have waken up because of a loud noise} * = not good

Saya telah bangun kerana bunyi kuat {I had waken up because of a loud noise}

 

Anyway,

At level one, we take telah and sudah as tense words marking past occurrence.

In this sense, they are interchangeable to describe past occurrences.

 

Cikgu 

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